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Why are my points going down??

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:04 am
by Del
A few perplexed people have asked this question about the hlstats ranking doohickery, it's explained on the help page of the stats
2. How is the "points" rating calculated?

A new player has 1000 points. Every time you make a kill, you gain a certain amount of points depending on a) the victim's points rating, and b) the weapon you used. If you kill someone with a higher points rating than you, then you gain more points than if you kill someone with a lower points rating than you. Therefore, killing newbies will not get you as far as killing the #1 player. And if you kill someone with your knife, you gain more points than if you kill them with a rifle, for example.

When you are killed, you lose a certain amount of points, which again depends on the points rating of your killer and the weapon they used (you don't lose as many points for being killed by the #1 player with a rifle than you do for being killed by a low ranked player with a knife). This makes moving up the rankings easier, but makes staying in the top spots harder.

Specifically, the equations are:

Killer Points = Killer Points + (Victim Points / Killer Points)
× Weapon Modifier × 5

Victim Points = Victim Points - (Victim Points / Killer Points)
× Weapon Modifier × 5
now the wording is geared for Counter Strike, so ignore the knife/rifle bullshit, and it's out of the box default points for kills. There is a minimum and maximum allowed skill change through frags, and these are set at the hlstats defaults of 2 and 25 pts respectively

lets take an example -

Joe_n00b27 connects and is on 1000pts
Exfane is on shitloads (say 10000 for easy sums)

Through some odd twist of fate joe n00b kills exfane. he gains 50 points : (10000/1000)x5
Exfane loses 50pts. But the upper limit is is 25pts, so they gain and lose 25pts respectively

Normality is restored after the next spawn wave and exfane kills joe n00b. he gains .5 points : (1000/10000)x5
Joe n00b loses .5 pts. I would assume that the points are rounded off, so it would be rounded up to 1pt gained/lost, but the lower limit is is 2pts, so they gain and lose 2pts respectively

To add to the confusion, and so that existing players aren't punished that excessively for being killed by one time visitors, for the first 50 kills someone makes on the server the killer and victim points gains/losses are set to the minimum skill change, ie 2pts, on the 51st kill however the above points calculations would apply.

So you can see that as a server noobie, you can accumulate points very quickly, but as you climb the ranks, it gets harder to achieve or even maintain points.


If you want to play the numbers game, here's how: kill loads, dont get killed, cos it costs, but especially dont get killed by fresh faces!


hope that makes it all as clear as mud

Re: Why are my points going down??

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:37 pm
by Zed
i hate the part where your points go down cause when you have a bad day or theres a hacker, yuor score gets raped...

Re: Why are my points going down??

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:51 pm
by Advent
Ah i see, thanks for the explanation.

Re: Why are my points going down??

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:19 pm
by DragoonKnight
but if you are a good medic like Putte(he is one of the best! :) ) you can easily get more points than normal from ubers and kill assists

Re: Why are my points going down??

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:44 pm
by baggheed
what if ur a shit medic like me and drink too much and like the ladies and jonny noob and exfane kill me and my missus shouts at me cause its 3am and jase and fester r making me wee myself...r my points safe?

Re: Why are my points going down??

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:47 pm
by DragoonKnight
well baggy u need to switch class and hunt down the top players and kill them, like del says u get more points for killing people who r higher ranked than you

Re: Why are my points going down??

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:06 pm
by Jonnywhy
jonny noob? Is that me ur thinking of? I didn't realise you were still a noob after 150 hours...

Re: Why are my points going down??

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:46 am
by Toco
we need stoner/drunk protection for our points so ur score can only be raped so far

Re: Why are my points going down??

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 1:19 pm
by MountieXXL
yeah, if this gets serious I cant play sober anymore..

plus we should give 0,10 points for snipers body kills, 0,25 for headshots or else the whole system is fucked as soon as there is a map that has some open areas.

edit: oh right, and is there a way to monitor the sentry gun kills? i.e.: if an engie turns out to have found the #1 position for a sentry and owns everyone, that the grunt-medic team who takes the sentry out gets more points according to how many kills the gun has.