Snipers have to go!

[Del]

I always go for the headshot w/ ma shoval!!

[vonklinkerhoffen]

U should be able to hold your shovel for your face, deflecting sniper bullets.

[krikke]

Oh no another sniping thread...

I dont' really care if we get an extra point for a headshot or not, although I have to admit that I experience it as somekind of rewarding of a good shot.

The only problem I have with this whole sniping issue is that most people think that snipers are lame and require no skill. Offcourse there are snipers who don't move and idle on the same spot for 30 mins even without any action in their neighbourhood. And I also won't deny the fact that there are no skilled snipers who just put their crosshair on a spot and wait till someones comes thru. BUT on the other hand I also think that there are snipers who are actively involved in the fight and change places frequently enough so they are moving in the map. For me the most fun part of being a sniper is to backup my team anytime I can. It's always the same: the team without snipers say we're assholes and our own team appreciates the help we give them in backing them up in large zones. Take 2Fort, turbine or Mach4 for example: it gives me a big kick that I can take out opponents before my own teammates engage a fight with them. This spares their health so they can fight harder at points we're it's necessary (getting intel or so). On the other hand when I see a teammate retreating with the intel and the opposite team is hunting the poor fella down, I really get a kick of backing him up so he can make the crossover.

I hope you guys also understand our point of view and realise that being a sniper is -for us- mostly a role where we back up and help our team. Wether it's defending or attacking. It's not the first time I get a compliment of a teammate whose opponent I took out when they were having a heavy fight. As for skill... do you really think it's that easy to hit somebody in the head when they are moving? I don't consider myself as a suppreme sniper (let's say average) but how does it come that only the same snipers have big headshot % kills and the 'normal' ones have way lower headshot scores? Skilled snipers deserve the same respect as any other class as they only kill while being accurate and having good aiming reflexes. Try to spec a good sniper and you will see that they can clear out an open space in like 10 seconds. Reapting headshots for 1-5 times in a row. Taking care of opposite snipers and then going from head to head in a blink of an eye and make it a 1 hit 1 kill. To me that's skill. If you play sniper like this it actually asks a lot of concetration and you're very busy. Ask Jased why I sometimes don't respond in voicechat... a soldier or heavy has sort of speak lots of time but a sniper is all about scanning the action field and when busy, try to get as much kills as possible in the fastest time possible.

I don't care if you take our extra point away, hell you can even put me in my underwear... I will always love to snipe!

Just my 2 cents.

BOOM!! Headshot!!

[Del]

Just my 2 cents.

BOOM!! Headshot!!

more like 2 euros there krikke!!
good, fair points tho...but taking the 3 maps you pointed out (your 3 favs), sniper friendly, sniper friendly, sniper friendly. Wot say you to not so sniper friendly maps? Play soldier on them?

BOOM!! Splash damage!!

[krikke]

There are times that I play solly... and besides name me one map that isn't sniper friendly? Maze? Ok you have me.

Maps like geothermal for example I also prefer to play as a soldier. My favourite class is sniper but I don't care to play another class if the sniping in a particular map isn't very constructive.
Luckily for me most maps do have some kind of a friendly sniper thing on them. Even the push the cart levels. For me being a good sniper is also play well on the not so called sniper maps. Give me 5 free squares metres and i'll try to snipe If that doesn't work well, I'll go solly

[vonklinkerhoffen]

Krikke

The only reason u like to play sniper is u can sit in a corner and need only one hand (using the mouse) and keep the other in your pants...perrrrrr !
hehe

[FullMetal_old]

I know reasons Krikke goes from sniper to soldier xD

[Jonnywhy]

Metal, sort your sig out!

Hmm I've never really got sniper (only played a few hours so that's mayb why...) I used to ALWAYS try head shots. Hmm now maybe I understand why I was so bad!

[cockijoe]

This again poor snipers lol,
My look on this is that sniper is in the game so leave him be a few swift rockets fired at him across the map makes him think also (my tactic against krikke) and gives you a chance to get out of his fire zone ,No if we going to start going on about this class that class why dont we mention the over powerd pyro, When tf2 1st came out a pyro struggled to take out a sentry (unless uberd)
now a solo pyro can stroll around a corner take me dispencer and sentry out within 3 seconds WTF
lol Now thats shit so lets leave all chars alone they part of the game and other classes are there to even things out just my tuppence worth

[Jonnywhy]

This again poor snipers lol,
My look on this is that sniper is in the game so leave him be a few swift rockets fired at him across the map makes him think

That's what I do - they always headshot me before my rockets arrive tho, then run off 2 avoid them