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Stats Reset
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:31 pm
by Fester
OK guys we are in talks bout resetting the stats on the first of next month and with a view to resetting the first of every month/ 2 months whats yer thoughts. Its really so the new folks who join have a chance to climb the ranks and also stops those on top from complete world domantion

this is not to take from the guys in top ten this is only for them to prove they can always be top ten :p
fester

Re: Stats Reset
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:50 pm
by vonklinkerhoffen
Points are earned relatively.
If top 20 players have around 5000 points or around 20000 doesnt really matter .
It should take about the same time for a newcomer to get in top20, if he/she is a decent player.
Of course, you will advance easier if killing most of the time top ranked players.
I have seen last week already a few players who climbed already very nice.
I heard also from a few players that it can be a bit annoying to get killed by one-time visitors of the servers and not regulars, because killed by these newcomers can make you loose up to 25points a kill.
Interesting found on forum :
"Maximum Skill Change 25 ---- maximum you can lose OR gain is 25 points
Minimum Skill Change 2 ---- minimum you can lose OR gain is 2 points
Minimum Player Kills 50 -- specifics the number of kills needed by a newcomer to get ranked/and gain regular points. If not the killer and victim will always get the points of the minimum skill change.
"
Starting over from scratch every month or 2 months is maybe just over the top. But maybe more like every 4 or 6 months ?
Re: Stats Reset
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:03 pm
by Jonnywhy
I remember when I joined the old 2Fort 24/7 server it had like 27000 people on the ranking system, after playing for around 4 days game time, I had only managed to climb to about 65th. Periodically resets are good, to my mind
Re: Stats Reset
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:07 pm
by BBloke
I think its a great idea. Its nice just to see how things change (for myself) and see if I've improved. I can see the ranks are based upon points but if you don't play you wont get a high rank (in general). I know I've been in the top 20 (early stat days) and now I'm firmly in the top 50's.
Monthly or two monthly would be awesome. I voted yes and 2 months.
Re: Stats Reset
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:42 pm
by Del
What about your thoughts on the points system?
Is the 2-25pts range too great?
Should some weapons kills carry more than others?
Engies get more points for melee kill than sentry gun?
Pyros get more for deflected kills?
Should snipers get headshot bonus?
Spies get backstab bonus?
As it stands, you get more that 2x times points for getting a revenge than you do for a domination, which is just plain wrong imo
shout out, cos if we do a reset, we can implement scoring changes at the time too
Re: Stats Reset
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:00 pm
by Zed
personaly i think the 2-25 points range is to great. it should be more like 2-15 or somthing.
"Should some weapons kills carry more than others?" ----yes make soldier rockets gain less points
"Engies get more points for melee kill than sentry gun?" ----sounds good
"Pyros get more for deflected kills?" ----definatly
"Should snipers get headshot bonus?" ----hell yea
"Spies get backstab bonus?" ----sure
"As it stands, you get more that 2x times points for getting a revenge than you do for a domination, which is just plain wrong imo" ----make both dominating and revenge be 1.5x points?
them is my opintions.
Re: Stats Reset
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:10 pm
by vonklinkerhoffen
If you play on a regular base and get stuck around a certain position, it means you have reached your rank. Gaining and loosing points is somewhat in balance.
Average points gained/ Avg Points lost ~1
Also, resetting the stats means that the first days/week(s) (?) everyone will stick together and only after a while you get a separation. Like in the Tour de France lol.
Its like with statistical results : with the more samples you work, the more accurate the measurement.
So every month resetting is for sure too early.At least 2 months or even 3. (imo)
Snipers do get already a headshot bonus of +1, while +2 might be overkill .
Backstabs are filthy and should get -1
=> I think there is a general model for weapon points modifiers.
Revenge is encouraging for some weaker players , getting fragged and dominated all the time can be depressing, rewarding this with a big bonus can be motivating.Also imo.
Relatively quiete at work here as you can see

Re: Stats Reset
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:11 pm
by cockijoe
A good idea maybe 2 month might be to quick 6 month maybe

Re: Stats Reset
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:41 pm
by Advent
I like the longer run of stats better, if we reset them now then we lost a lot of history imo

The purpose of a ranking system might be undermined entirely if it gets reset often/at all.
I like the perspective of being able to see how much i've played, how i'm doing with different classes at different stages.
It also gives new people something to aim at
At the end of the day i'll go along with what the majority want.
Re: Stats Reset
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:11 pm
by [U2OP] Willy
If the stats get reset, does it reset everything? The ranking I can understand and would vote yes but can we keep the other stats for individual classes.