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Gamer's Voice

Post by Johnimus Prime » Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:09 pm

There has been lots in the news over the last few years about the rise of gaming, and in particular the very graphic and violent nature of some titles.

I don't consider myself to be a loon. Just because I like burning / backstabbing / exploding all of you on TF2 and ploughing my way through hordes of zombies in L4D, I'm not going to go out on the street and start bludgeoning Joe Public to death in a mad blood lust. Like the rest of you, I play games because they are games. I think gamers as a breed are all sufficiently smart enough to realise that games are detached from real life, (unlike many watchers of soap operas - some of whom have stalked actors, sent them death threats and reacted to them like they are actually the people you see on the screen).

The issue has become more mainstream with the release of MW2 - a title that, in the UK, can only be purchased by a person of 18 years or over. Journalists and critics have highlighted a section of the game known as the 'airport massacre', and created a huge buzz about it's unneccesary violence. Unneccesary it may be, but this is just a game.

In much the same way as criticism was made about 'Monty python's Life Of Brian', much of the criticism that has been levvied on games has come from, in my opinion, ignorant people who don't actually know anything about games, or the games industry. These people will probably have formed their opinion on the back of somebody elses equally ill informed opinion and, more than likely, have not seen or played the games themselves.

I've just joined a Facebook group called 'Gamer's Voice'. It's been set up by a former MP who was the minister for digital entertainment, and a supporter of people like you and me. The groups mission statement is:

"Are you sick of UK newspapers and (my fellow) politicians beating up on gaming? So am I. The truth is, UK gamers need their own pressure group. I want to help you start one up."

I think that it's important for gamers to be aware of the games industry and stand up for the ideals behind it. Festers is a fantastic community, and I'm only here because I met some of the people from playing Half Life 2 - itself a pretty violent game. Without games I wouldn't have had that opportunity.

Fight for your rights to game!

(p.s. - I'm not trying to mobilise a revolution or anything. I just think it's important that your all aware of whats happening around you. And I'm bored at work, and when I'm bored at work I'm the worlds most capable spammer 8-) )
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Re: Gamer's Voice

Post by BBloke » Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:25 pm

Well said sir but I must point out to your avid audience you have age and wisdom on your side. Which, sadly, was missing from those that thought copying video games in real life was acceptable.

I as always told that you should never believe what you read but with news/gossip obsessions rising we seem to be a factory of sheep following the mass media engine as though it were god.

Everything has it's time and place and games are certainly here to stay. For some they are too real but that's a good thing and a sign that we have advanced as a civilisation. Long live the gaming revolution :)

Nice post btw
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Post by d0n_th3_run_4ss4ss1n » Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:42 pm

lol, Johnni!
Indeed I agree of cos - cos I´m a gamer :-D . A nice example with the soap opera stuff btw. I´m so sick of all the feckin discussions bout that topic which is flamed about once a year over here in Germany. I dunno why - they are just searchin for a satisfyin answer to all their questions how a young man can be that raw and martial to kill people w/o any convincing reason.

But no - I don´t think that there is a connection between gaming and killing ppl in the streets. It´s the feckin society that forces or seem to force teens/grown ups to go beserk. More and more people are left behind the Turbo capitalisms priorities - if you ain´t profitable you ain´t worth a shit. Possibly that topic shall be discussed stead of searchin for new game titles to be responsible for a school splattered in red and brain...

Really cool that a former member of this hypocritical circus starts such a movement.

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Re: Gamer's Voice

Post by Devvil » Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:02 pm

So true johnimus... The general media makes it look worse than already it is, and the worse thing about it is that they are inadvertently advertising the game (any publicity is good publicity)., for it´s bad parts. Games have been violent since I remember, and only "now" have we start seeing wackos killing sprees attached to games. I understand why, because games are more mainstream now, but if they weren´t the sprees would be attached to any other kind of media , either music ,movies or anything else that´s mainstream.

Bottom line is: Videogames are a victim of their own success .

Also videogames are like a virtual stressball(to me at least); allowing me to "shoot people in the face" on the internetz, rather than going apeshit on one person after a hard day of work.
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Re: Gamer's Voice

Post by Mark3h » Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:14 pm

Games and Gamers have been the target of misunderstood and biased beliefs for far too long.
After the whole manhunt fiasco a few years ago when some kid beat his friend to death.

"Warren Leblanc, 17, repeatedly stabbed 14-year-old Stefan Pakeerah after luring him to a Leicester park to steal from him on 27 February 2004"
The kid, who is underage to play manhunt, had mimicked the game. Some of Warrens friends said he was obsessed by the game. I wouldn't blame the game at all, they dont have hidden messages, they have age restrictions for a reason.

Great example using soap operas johnni, there are far more cases of people stalking tv celebs than there are of "Computer game related violence". Video game are all about escapism, enjoyment, be they driving, shooting, sport, fighting. We don't have decent functioning 3D reality stuff you see in films in every home just yet, so if you can't tell the difference between real life and a game, the problems with you, not the game.
Devvil wrote:Bottom line is: Videogames are a victim of their own success
Couldn't agree more devvil
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Post by DHARMA AGENT » Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:42 pm

Awesome post. Lots of media has been associated with violence..tv, music, games. Bottom line is most of the violence being blamed on such media is perpetrated by teenagers. Age limits should be enforced in my opinion. Studies show teenagers latch onto things differently. WoW proves it. The game becomes the teen's idol. Violence in video games will always be there, the question is will parents stop buying their kids the games? Probably not. Will retail stores or things like steam find ways to enforce the age restriction? Probably not. So the game maker is supposed to be held accountable? Just because someone makes something doesn't mean it has to be bought. All things in this world have age restrictions for a reason. But a 13 year old can watch porn just by entering the birthday 1/2/80 on some website. And what if its some hardcore porn the boy then goes and tries to re-enact? Is the Porn maker responsible? Parents need to be held accountable. If that boy you speak of really was copying the game, then were his parents held accountable for letting him play it? Probably not. But those same parents could go to jail if their child skips school for contributing to the delinquency of a minor. I personally like the violence in games. I only play fps for that reason, but I assure you I have never hurt a fly.
Btw.......backstabbing Johnimus? When did you "join the dark side"?
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Re: Gamer's Voice

Post by FullMetal_old » Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:50 pm

I do Street Fighter IRL.
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Re: Gamer's Voice

Post by Thanatosgratus » Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:08 pm

FullMetal wrote:I do Street Fighter IRL.
Dressing up like Chun-Li doesn't make it street fighter :)

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Re: Gamer's Voice

Post by Johnimus Prime » Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:21 pm

Thanatosgratus wrote:
FullMetal wrote:I do Street Fighter IRL.
Dressing up like Chun-Li doesn't make it street fighter :)
Full Metal dressing up as Chun Li and doing street fighter in real life is probbably more likely to provoke a violent response than any game. Look up Swanse cage fighters on YouTube to see what I mean.
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Re: Gamer's Voice

Post by BBloke » Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:22 pm

Doesn't he have the hair for Chun Li already... A local thug may take a fancy to him and give a sore going over!
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